
Like most artists, Cassadee Pope had different plans for 2020. She had been planning a full-length band project to follow up last year’s Stages.
Then the COVID-19 pandemic hit, temporarily shutting down recording studios, and effectively canceling tours for the foreseeable future. Pope has been making the best of having extra downtime by facing one of her fears—cooking.
“I mean, I was deathly afraid of the kitchen. I would never cook because I’d be afraid that I would mess it up, because I have in the past,” Pope says. “But during the quarantine, I hit my stride. I was relying on cookbooks and online recipes, or whatever, but now I’m just making things up and they are turning out great. I’ve baked cakes, I’ve made scones—I’m feeling pretty good about my skills now.”
That’s not the only creative endeavor she’s undertaken—over the past few years, she’d been writing music, funneling the heartbreaks and disappointments she’d experienced over the past few years—from parting ways with her former label BMLG, to a breakup with an old boyfriend, and then her journey through therapy and self-discovery—into some of her most intensely personal work to date.
Pope says she felt the creative freedom to revisit some of those songs (most of them written around 2017), culling more than two dozen tracks into the eight that appear on her recent acoustic EP, Rise and Shine, which released independently in August via her own Awake Music label.
“It’s a product of the pandemic,” she says of the acoustic album. “At the beginning, I thought, ‘What can I do safely that would still have an impact? An acoustic project felt like the obvious answer. We are in an acoustic state of the world right now, where we don’t have a ton to distract ourselves from our issues or the things we are going through. Obviously there’s so much noise happening in the world right now, but we aren’t distracting ourselves in many of the ways we normally do.”
Pope first rose to fame as a teenager, leading the rock group Hey Monday. In 2012, she took a creative detour into country music, winning season three of The Voice and following it with the Platinum-certified country hit, “Wasting All These Tears.” She went on to earn a Grammy nomination and a No. 1 hit with “Think of You,” a Platinum-certified collaboration with Chris Young.
But while those radio-friendly tracks benefited from swelling productions and Pope’s show-stopping soprano, Rise and Shine’s sparse instrumentation allows not only the power in Pope’s voice to take center stage—but also its singular cracks and edges, nuances that only heighten the intimacy and transparency felt throughout the songs’ lyrics.
Pope spent two days recording at Blackbird Studios in Nashville and for the first time, she co-produced an album, alongside Todd Lombardo.
“I wanted it to be acoustic first and foremost, and then I wanted it to also be kind of like more of an emo-country, acoustic record, rather than it be pretty traditional country sounding. So I was very focused on the vocal production aspects, just making sure that I chose the right mic, and that the vocals were mixed in a way that felt warm and cozy and not shrill and in your face.”
It’s all me, baby—blood, sweat, and the truth, Pope sings on the album’s closer, “Built This House,” the line an apt summary of the new project, as the album is steeped in details of her journey to finding self-acceptance and freedom.
She finds closure after a broken relationship on ‘Hoodie,’ and revels in the ragged edges that set her apart creatively on “Sand Paper.” She reprises Hey Monday’s signature hit “Hangover,” on the new project. Elsewhere, her current boyfriend, actor/musician Sam Palladio, lends his voice on the hopeful “California Dreaming.”
Next week, on Oct. 9, Pope will release a remixed version of the project’s title track, mixed by Dave Audé.
“I was so excited because when I heard my team say that he wanted to do a remix, I was like, ‘Oh, I don’t know if this is like a clubby song, but I guess we’ll see what he comes up with.’ Dave sent me a little bit of an example of what we wanted to do with the track, and to my delight and surprise it was just a more realized track than a club remix or anything like that. It’s got such weight to it, and a bit of an ‘80s vibe, which I love. I just thought this song, to me, feels powerful acoustic, but how can we make it feel powerful and a different realm and give it another life? And so this was kind of the solution to that. And I’m really happy with the way it turned out—it adds so much emotion to the song.”
Pope hopes the depth and breadth of the songs on Rise and Shine offer a point of relation and connection to listeners, no matter what they are going through, as it does for her.
“Some days it’s my favorite is ‘Hoodie,’ and some days my favorite is ‘Sand Paper.’ So I think that’s a good thing. I feel extremely close and precious about all of them. I think that what I’ve learned through releasing music through this time is that yes, people are probably more appreciative of it now, but I also think that won’t end, no matter how far out of this we get. I think people are always really hungry for music.”
Pope says Rise and Shine is a precursor to her upcoming full-length album, which will be more rock-oriented than her more recent albums.
“When I go and do the full band record, I really want to make sure that it’s safe and that everybody in the situation feels comfortable. So I haven’t really even looked at dates or figured out what that would even look like, how I could execute that safely. So that part is still up in the air, but I definitely have the songs and it’s definitely more pop rock leaning. It’s more of a focused project that’s come together through all of this, which I’m excited about.”
Industry Ink: Jake Owen, Charlie Daniels, Cash Campbell, Jeremy McComb, Rayne Johnson
/by Lorie HollabaughJake Owen’s Grandparents Receive No. 1 Plaque For Their “Homemade” Love Story
Pictured: Jean and Bryan Yancey Owen
Jake Owen recently surprised his grandparents Jean and Bryan Yancey Owen with a No. 1 plaque celebrating his first CMA Video of the Year nomination for “Homemade.” The video is based on their true-life love story and marriage of more than 70 years, and is a tribute to them and a reenactment of their story, detailing how they met, were separated and reunited during WWII. “Homemade” marked Owen’s eighth career No. 1 in the U.S., and his sixth in Canada. Co-written by Bobby Pinson, Drew Parker, Jared Mullins and Ben Goldsmith, the track is the third single from Owen’s album Greetings From…Jake.
Charlie Daniels Journey Home Project Makes Donation To A Soldier’s Child Foundation
“Even though Charlie has passed, we will continue his legacy and stay on mission,” explains David Corlew, Daniels’ longtime manager and The Journey Home Project co-founder. “As we all know, the men and women that have and continue to serve our country were so important to him. Our goals are to always support the Charlie and Hazel Daniels Center at MTSU (Middle Tennessee State University), as well as our suicide prevention programs and the process of reintegrating and transitioning these great Americans back to a productive and rewarding life.”
Cash Campbell Inks Distribution Deal With ONErpm
Cash Campbell. Photo: Robby Klein
Cash Campbell has signed a distribution deal with global music company ONErpm. Campbell’s new single, “Weddings & Funerals,” is available on all streaming sites now. Campbell burst onto the scene in 2017 with “Cannonball,” and shortly after that “The In Between” hit Top 40 on Billboard’s Country Indicator and Top 20 on MusicRow’s Country Breakout charts. He was also selected by CMT for their Artist Discovery Initiative.
“Cash is a multifaceted artist who has the ability to inspire and entertain an audience with ease,” said Ken Madson, general Manager, USA, ONErpm. “Jeff Tobias, the entire ONErpm team and I are thrilled to have him on board and look forward to his upcoming releases.”
Jeremy McComb Talks ‘Cotton’ With Big D And Bubba
Pictured: Big D, Jeremy McComb, Bubba
Average Joes’ recording artist Jeremy McComb stopped by recently to visit with Big D & Bubba and chat about his new single, “Cotton’s Gettin’ High,” which was released on Sept. 25. The interview will air on Tuesday, Oct. 6.
Rayne Johnson Joins Verge Records Roster
Rayne Johnson has signed a deal with Verge Records, becoming the latest act to sign a deal with Mickey Jack Cones, president and COO of Verge, the label arm of global music company ONErpm. Johnson’s first single under his new label, “Real Dang Good,” will be released to all streaming partners on Wednesday (Oct. 7) in advance of its radio add date on Oct. 12. Verge is partnering with Mark Liggett, president of Mountain Road Records, to roll out Johnson’s single, using ONErpm for distribution.
An Ohio native, Johnson has opened concerts for Hunter Hayes, Riley Green and Randy Houser, among others, and has released three singles in the last two years, the latest of which, “Front Seat,” was embraced by country radio earlier this year. It landed on the Billboard Country Airplay and Mediabase Country Aircheck charts and was well received by fans and critics, garnering 24 million cumulative streams.
Today: Last Day To Register To Vote For The Nov. 3 Election
/by Jessica NicholsonToday (Oct. 5) is the final day Tennesseans can register to vote in order to be able to cast a ballot in the Nov. 3 State and Federal General Election. Tennesseans must register to vote by 11:59 p.m. tonight.
“I encourage all Tennesseans to register to vote or make sure their registration is up-to-date before the deadline tonight,” said Secretary of State Tre Hargett. “It is important for all of us to make our voice heard at the polls. Thankfully you can safely register in minutes with our online voter registration system.”
The Secretary of State’s online voter registration system allows users to register to vote, update an address and check registration status. Any U.S. citizen with a driver’s license or a photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security can register online from any computer or mobile device at GoVoteTN.com.
Voters can also download a paper voter registration application at GoVoteTN.com. Completed paper voter registration applications must be submitted or postmarked today, Oct. 5, to your local county election commission office. You can find the mailing address for your county election commission at tnsos.org.
Early voting starts Wednesday, Oct. 14, and runs Monday to Saturday until Thursday, Oct. 29. Election Day is Nov. 3.
Kenny Rogers ‘The Gambler’ DVD Box Set To Release Oct. 6
/by Jessica NicholsonKenny Rogers. Photo: Piper Ferguson
All five Gambler films starring Kenny Rogers are set to be released in one DVD collection, Kenny Rogers: The Gambler. The six-film box set (which includes the movie Coward of the County as a bonus), will be available at Walmart beginning Oct. 6, via Shout! Factory.
The Gambler series generated five Emmy Award nominations. Rogers made his acting debut in the original film The Gambler, which debuted on April 8, 1980. Rogers returned as Brady Hawkes in The Gambler: The Adventure Continues, which premiered on CBS in November 1983. The Gambler Part III: The Legend Continues followed in 1987, with the fourth installment, The Gambler Returns: The Luck of the Draw (featuring Rogers alongside Reba McEntire) aired on NBC in 1991. The series finale, Gambler V: Playing For Keeps, aired on CBS in 1994.
The series was loosely based on the Grammy-winning song “The Gambler,” penned by Country Music Hall of Fame songwriter Don Schlitz. The song was Rogers’s fourth No. 1 solo hit and one of five consecutive songs by the entertainer to reach No. 1. The song earned a Grammy in 1978 for Best Country Song and earned CMA’s Song of the Year honor in 1979.
In 2018, “The Gambler” was selected for preservation in the National Recording Registry by the Library of Congress as being “culturally, historically, or artistically significant.” Rogers died on March 20, 2020; following his passing, “The Gambler” reached No. 1 on Billboard‘s Digital Song Sales chart.
Spotify Launches Weekly Music Charts
/by Jessica NicholsonSpotify is launching weekly music charts, including an albums chart, in a move that expands on the platform’s top daily songs tally.
The Weekly Top 50 will tally the biggest albums and songs in the world each week, Friday through Thursday, consisting of a US Weekly Album Chart, Global Weekly Album Chart, a US Weekly Song Chart, and a Global Weekly Song Chart, published each Monday.
The US Top 10 Debuts and Global Top 10 Debuts lists capture the biggest new releases on Spotify, Friday through Sunday. These lists incorporate data from the first 72 hours a song or album is live, giving an early take on new music.
“Spotify’s new-and first ever-album charts will showcase the power of albums on the platform, highlighting the craft of creating a full album, the immense effort that is often involved, and the way that albums connect fans all around the world,” the company said in an announcement. “Albums are stories, and often deeply personal ones, that artists are telling in their own unique way and we want to celebrate these artistic labors of love.”
Reba McEntire, Darius Rucker To Co-Host CMA Awards
/by Jessica NicholsonPictured: Darius Rucker, Reba McEntire. Photo: Alysse Gafkjen/ABC
Reba McEntire and Darius Rucker have been named as the hosts for the upcoming 54th annual CMA Awards, set to air live from Nashville on Nov. 11 on ABC. This year’s event will take place at Music City Center in downtown Nashville. This marks Rucker’s first time as a host for the CMA Awards, while McEntire returns for a fifth time as host.
“I’m thrilled to be back hosting the CMA Awards and even more thrilled that I get to share the stage with Darius Rucker,” McEntire said via a statement. “We’re looking forward to a night of celebrating great country music and hope you’ll tune in and watch!”
“I look forward to the CMA Awards every year because of the incredible performances and the opportunity to celebrate the year in country music,” Rucker added. “To be invited to host this year’s awards alongside Reba — are you kidding me?! — it is an absolute honor. Even though this year will look a little different than normal, I know that we’re all eager for a night of musical celebration, and this year’s show definitely won’t disappoint!”
McEntire has won six CMA honors during her career, and is currently nominated Musical Event of the Year for her role in Thomas Rhett’s “Be A Light,” which also included Hillary Scott, Chris Tomlin and Keith Urban. Rucker won the CMA’s New Artist of the Year honor in 2009, and has been nominated for Male Vocalist of the Year, Musical Event of the Year, and Single of the Year (“Wagon Wheel”) in recent years.
“We are beyond thrilled to welcome Reba and Darius as this year’s CMA Awards hosts,” says Sarah Trahern, CMA Chief Executive Officer. “Their playful chemistry and genuine warmth are exactly what we know our viewers want to see this year. We look forward to bringing fans a night of celebration, live performances and a television experience unlike any other. We cannot wait to share more details about our show in the coming weeks.”
The third and final ballot for the upcoming CMA Awards is open now and closes Tuesday, Oct. 27 at 6 p.m. CT.
The 54th Annual CMA Awards is a production of the Country Music Association. Robert Deaton is the Executive Producer, Alan Carter is the Director and David Wild is the Head Writer.
Miranda Lambert leads this year’s nominees with seven nominations, followed by Luke Combs with six nominations.
Matthew West To Release Live EP Oct. 30
/by Jessica Nicholson“Among the many things that have been taken away from us in 2020, live music has been pretty much shut down,” West says. “Our tour buses have been parked, our production placed in storage, and the bands and crews have all been sent home for the most part. It’s made me pretty sentimental lately, missing the beautiful moments that have taken place over the years on stage with audiences across this great country. So, I had this idea to gather some recordings from some of our most recent performances and put out a little live EP called, Live Before The World Shut Down. Just listening to these recordings gets me excited to once again be able to gather together. And when we do, I have a feeling we will all be singing louder than ever before giving thanks to the God who stays faithful and brings us through! In the meantime, maybe this little live EP can hold you over until we meet again on the road.”
In lieu of in-person live events, West has hosted his own live streaming events and has recently announced his second special event, “West Fall Fest,” live on Oct. 16 at 7 p.m. central. In August, he launched his weekly podcast, “The Matthew West Podcast,” which debuted at No. 1 on the Apple Religion & Spirituality chart.
Live Before The World Shut Down Track Listing
1. “Without You”
2. “Nobody”
3. “Hope Returns”
4. “Love On The Radio”
5. “Truth Be Told”
6. “The God Who Stays”
Devin Dawson Announces ‘The Pink Slip EP’ To Drop In January
/by Lorie HollabaughDevin Dawson revealed he’ll be celebrating the new year with a new project, The Pink Slip EP, that will be released Jan. 15. He gave fans a taste of the new six-song project with the new track “Range Rover,” which he released today.
Named for the representation of optimistic freedom showcased in lead track “I Got a Truck,” the Pink Slip EP finds Dawson building on the edgy confidence he pioneered with Dark Horse, but with a sunnier outlook.
“I will always be a dark horse, but I have come a long way from the person I was, and I understand more of what it means to be an artist,” Dawson says. “There are definitely vibes on this EP that I wouldn’t peg for myself, but I like the unexpected nature of doing things that people don’t see coming. I try to reinvent the wheel every single day because I don’t think you ever really arrive, and you can never put your feet up. I want to be honest and vulnerable and take the next step, because I always want to be creating music that’s fresh and different from anything I’ve released before. I’m still in black and white, but the background is a little brighter.”
Dawson hasn’t been a stranger to the charts. He’s currently featured on HARDY’s Top 10 single “One Beer” alongside Lauren Alaina, and “I Got A Truck” and “Range Rover” are the first new solo releases from Dawson since the success of his Grammy-nominated, ACM and CMA Single of the Year, “God’s Country,” that he co-wrote for Blake Shelton. The multi-week No. 1 also landed Dawson his first-ever ACM and CMA award nominations for Song of the Year, adding to his previously earned nods from the ACM, CMT Music, Radio Disney, BMI and MusicRow Awards.
Lauren Alaina To Headline Second Virtual Special With VYE Live
/by Lorie HollabaughThe rising superstar partnered with VYE Live for her first virtual livestream concert last month, which was such a success she is doing another one for fans.
In addition to just getting the news her duet with friend/rising star Kane Brown,“What Ifs,” was certified for six million singles sold, Alaina continues a busy Fall season with several high-profile appearances. She sat down with Circle host Nan Kelley for an intimate interview for Circle Sessions, debuting tomorrow, Saturday, Oct. 3 on Circle TV as the lead-in to the livestream of the 95th Anniversary celebration of the Grand Ole Opry.
The Georgia native will step into the circle herself at the Grand Ole Opry for their 4,947th consecutive Saturday night broadcast on Oct. 24 for the “Opry Goes Pink”: The Opry’s 12th Annual Show Marking the Fight Against Breast Cancer show.
Priscilla Block Talks TikTok, Signing With UMG, And Writing What She Knows
/by LB CantrellPriscilla Block plays for MusicRow Staffers over Zoom.
In a matter of a few months, Nashville-based singer-songwriter Priscilla Block went from having to move out of her apartment because she couldn’t afford the rent, to earning nearly 600,000 TikTok followers, having a No. 1 song on iTunes and signing a record deal with UMG Nashville.
“I wrote this song two and half months ago. From writing the song to releasing the song was three weeks apart. My fans just really rallied, they wanted the song out so bad. It’s been crazy,” Block said during a meeting (via Zoom) with MusicRow staffers.
“Just About Over You” was first released independently through the support of her dedicated fanbase, who crowd-funded the recording. Block wrote the song with Sarah Jones and Emily Kroll. The radio version of “Just About Over You,” impacting on Oct. 5, was produced by Ross Copperman.
Originally from Raleigh, NC, Block moved to Nashville after high school to pursue music. Since then, she’s held multiple jobs to make ends meet while writing songs and playing music at bars along Demonbreun Street, The Listening Room Cafe, and Nashville favorite Whiskey Jam.
“It’s kind of crazy to think about where I was four months ago—well, how many months ago was March?” Block joked. “At the beginning of March when everything shut down, I was doing music basically full time. I just decided to really hone in on social media, it was kind of the only thing I could control at that point. I decided to hop on TikTok and I had no clue it was going to do what it did. I thought it was this dancing app. I’m glad that my songs work because I am not a dancer! If I was dancing, it would have never worked for me!
“There was a moment where there would be certain songs or certain videos that would reach 1 million views. I was like ‘Wait, this could really work!’ It’s crazy because at that time I had moved out of my apartment because I couldn’t afford my rent, so it was TikTok that pulled me through during that time. No one knew that my life was falling apart four months ago. I threw up this work-tape of this song that I wrote [‘Just About Over You’] just sitting on my bed. There were so many fans behind the song that put their own money into me going into the studio and recording it. It’s just been really cool to see this turn around.”
Priscilla Block
The day after “Just About Over You” topped the iTunes chart, labels started calling.
“We had calls from just about everybody, not even just Nashville. We had LA and New York calling. We just started taking meetings. [UMG Nashville’s EVP, A&R] Brian Wright and Mike Dungan [UMG Nashville’s Chairman & CEO] ended taking a meeting with me and that was freaking awesome. I had other meetings but there was just something in me that felt really good about Universal.”
In another side of Block’s music—she says she has three: sad, trash or sass—she shares the confidence she has in her own skin.
“I like to write about what I know about, and I am a curvy girl. I will always be curvy. I have tried and failed every single diet out there,” Block said. “This song is called ‘Thick Thighs’ and it’s an ongoing joke, it’s sad but it’s true, I have stopped buying produce because it always goes bad.
“You can either laugh about it or cry about it, I’d rather laugh,” Block said.
Among Block’s catalog are several charmingly honest songs, alongside “Thick Thighs,” even including a song called “PMS.”
“Like I said, I like to write about what I know about! So I figured there needed to be a song about PMS!” she joked.
Cassadee Pope Channels Her Journey From Heartbreak To Creative Freedom On ‘Rise and Shine’
/by Jessica NicholsonLike most artists, Cassadee Pope had different plans for 2020. She had been planning a full-length band project to follow up last year’s Stages.
Then the COVID-19 pandemic hit, temporarily shutting down recording studios, and effectively canceling tours for the foreseeable future. Pope has been making the best of having extra downtime by facing one of her fears—cooking.
“I mean, I was deathly afraid of the kitchen. I would never cook because I’d be afraid that I would mess it up, because I have in the past,” Pope says. “But during the quarantine, I hit my stride. I was relying on cookbooks and online recipes, or whatever, but now I’m just making things up and they are turning out great. I’ve baked cakes, I’ve made scones—I’m feeling pretty good about my skills now.”
That’s not the only creative endeavor she’s undertaken—over the past few years, she’d been writing music, funneling the heartbreaks and disappointments she’d experienced over the past few years—from parting ways with her former label BMLG, to a breakup with an old boyfriend, and then her journey through therapy and self-discovery—into some of her most intensely personal work to date.
Pope says she felt the creative freedom to revisit some of those songs (most of them written around 2017), culling more than two dozen tracks into the eight that appear on her recent acoustic EP, Rise and Shine, which released independently in August via her own Awake Music label.
“It’s a product of the pandemic,” she says of the acoustic album. “At the beginning, I thought, ‘What can I do safely that would still have an impact? An acoustic project felt like the obvious answer. We are in an acoustic state of the world right now, where we don’t have a ton to distract ourselves from our issues or the things we are going through. Obviously there’s so much noise happening in the world right now, but we aren’t distracting ourselves in many of the ways we normally do.”
Pope first rose to fame as a teenager, leading the rock group Hey Monday. In 2012, she took a creative detour into country music, winning season three of The Voice and following it with the Platinum-certified country hit, “Wasting All These Tears.” She went on to earn a Grammy nomination and a No. 1 hit with “Think of You,” a Platinum-certified collaboration with Chris Young.
But while those radio-friendly tracks benefited from swelling productions and Pope’s show-stopping soprano, Rise and Shine’s sparse instrumentation allows not only the power in Pope’s voice to take center stage—but also its singular cracks and edges, nuances that only heighten the intimacy and transparency felt throughout the songs’ lyrics.
Pope spent two days recording at Blackbird Studios in Nashville and for the first time, she co-produced an album, alongside Todd Lombardo.
“I wanted it to be acoustic first and foremost, and then I wanted it to also be kind of like more of an emo-country, acoustic record, rather than it be pretty traditional country sounding. So I was very focused on the vocal production aspects, just making sure that I chose the right mic, and that the vocals were mixed in a way that felt warm and cozy and not shrill and in your face.”
It’s all me, baby—blood, sweat, and the truth, Pope sings on the album’s closer, “Built This House,” the line an apt summary of the new project, as the album is steeped in details of her journey to finding self-acceptance and freedom.
She finds closure after a broken relationship on ‘Hoodie,’ and revels in the ragged edges that set her apart creatively on “Sand Paper.” She reprises Hey Monday’s signature hit “Hangover,” on the new project. Elsewhere, her current boyfriend, actor/musician Sam Palladio, lends his voice on the hopeful “California Dreaming.”
Next week, on Oct. 9, Pope will release a remixed version of the project’s title track, mixed by Dave Audé.
“I was so excited because when I heard my team say that he wanted to do a remix, I was like, ‘Oh, I don’t know if this is like a clubby song, but I guess we’ll see what he comes up with.’ Dave sent me a little bit of an example of what we wanted to do with the track, and to my delight and surprise it was just a more realized track than a club remix or anything like that. It’s got such weight to it, and a bit of an ‘80s vibe, which I love. I just thought this song, to me, feels powerful acoustic, but how can we make it feel powerful and a different realm and give it another life? And so this was kind of the solution to that. And I’m really happy with the way it turned out—it adds so much emotion to the song.”
Pope hopes the depth and breadth of the songs on Rise and Shine offer a point of relation and connection to listeners, no matter what they are going through, as it does for her.
“Some days it’s my favorite is ‘Hoodie,’ and some days my favorite is ‘Sand Paper.’ So I think that’s a good thing. I feel extremely close and precious about all of them. I think that what I’ve learned through releasing music through this time is that yes, people are probably more appreciative of it now, but I also think that won’t end, no matter how far out of this we get. I think people are always really hungry for music.”
Pope says Rise and Shine is a precursor to her upcoming full-length album, which will be more rock-oriented than her more recent albums.
“When I go and do the full band record, I really want to make sure that it’s safe and that everybody in the situation feels comfortable. So I haven’t really even looked at dates or figured out what that would even look like, how I could execute that safely. So that part is still up in the air, but I definitely have the songs and it’s definitely more pop rock leaning. It’s more of a focused project that’s come together through all of this, which I’m excited about.”