
Ron Haffkine
By James Rea
(The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of MusicRow
.)
Best known for his work with
Dr. Hook, record producer, manager, A&R/songman
Ron Haffkine is in a class all his own. He shies away from talking about his Grammy and his record deal with PolyGram in 1971. His 67 gold and platinum albums (worldwide) are in closets and boxes in his home. And if you ask Ron about the 10 Top 10s he produced on Dr. Hook, he gives you the unedited hilarious stories of how much fun it was.
Dr. Hook’s 12 albums (10 studio and two live) produced by Ron featured numerous hits: “On The Cover of The Rolling Stone,” “Sylvia’s Mother,” “Sharing The Night Together,” “When You’re In Love With A Beautiful Woman,” “Baby Makes Her Blue Jeans Talk,” “Sexy Eyes” (written by
Keith Stegall) and Dr. Hook’s smash, “A Little Bit More,” which Ron found at a flea market for 35 cents.
At 21, Ron was a self-professed “average” musician, and his love of music drew him to Greenwich Village, in his home town of New York. There, he became life-long buddies with famed author/playwright/songwriter
Shel Silverstein, who wrote many of Dr. Hook’s songs, including “The Cover of The Rolling Stone,” “Freakin’ at the Freakers’ Ball” and “Sylvia’s Mother.” The late writer also penned songs including
Johnny Cash’s “A Boy Named Sue,” which won a Grammy in 1970, “The Unicorn” for
The Irish Rovers, and
Loretta Lynn’s “One’s On The Way.” Today Ron calls Shel,
Clive Davis and
Kyle Lehning the three most important people in his career.
Ron’s career began to take shape in the early ‘70s when he formed and managed a band called
The Gurus. He boldly walked into Regent Sound Studios and convinced then unknown engineer
Bill Szymczyk (who later produced
The Eagles) to co-produce his band. It was Ron’s first project.
Ron played the album for Shel, who was so impressed he recruited Ron to produce the music for some films he was working on:
Who is Harry Kellerman (
Dustin Hoffman) and
Ned Kelly (
Mick Jagger). The soundtrack of the 1970 Jagger film features Silverstein songs produced by Ron, and performed by
Waylon Jennings and
Kris Kristofferson. Although he was broke, Ron recognized the opportunity and took the gig for free.
One scene in the Hoffman film required a band on stage, so he recommended
Dr. Hook, who he’d heard in The Sands bar in Union City, New Jersey. He convinced the producers, Shel and Hoffman, to use them by hosting a showcase.
Ron knew he had to get a record deal for the band before the movie came out, so he used Hoffman’s name to get a meeting with
Clive Davis at CBS. Ron says that in preparation for the meeting he told the drummer to turn over Clive’s wastebasket and use it as a drum. He told the keyboard player to jump up on Clive’s desk, and he told Ray to sing about two feet from Clive’s face. He prepped the band with liquor. Clive called his business affairs man,
Elliot Goldman, and signed them on the spot. It was 1969.
Ron recalls, “Clive Davis had signed Dr. Hook and flown us to the CBS convention in LA. He had just finished telling everyone in his company that he was going to introduce his next huge act. Then the group gets on stage and completely blows it. It was terrible and I’m hiding in the bathroom.
Fred Foster comes in and sees me ready to pass out. He says, ‘Don’t worry. I heard that kid’s voice. Stay with it. Fred was a very important factor in my life and I don’t know if he knows it.”
Silverstein was then living in Sausalito and when Ron went to visit him, he fell in love with San Francisco and moved there.
They recorded Dr. Hook’s first album on the west coast at
Roy Halee’s studio. Ron and the band were broke and living in a flop house but they managed to record 20 sides. One day Shel and Ron were driving across the Golden Gate Bridge and Shel pulled out his guitar and played “Sylvia’s Mother.” Clive liked the song, but his head of national promotions,
Steve Popovich, loved it.
From hanging out with Shel Silverstein, Ron had learned the difference between good songs and great songs and was quickly becoming Dr. Hook’s go-to A&R man, as well as their producer and manager. Later, after “Sylvia’s Mother,” Ron locked horns with Clive Davis over Silverstein’s “Cover of the Rolling Stone” because of the lyrics “We take all kinds of pills to give us all kinds of thrills” and “I got a freaky old lady named Cocaine Katy.”
Ron recalled, “I went up to see
Jann Wenner at
Rolling Stone magazine and told him, ‘I’ve just given you guys the best commercial for that rag you’ll ever get.’ And the rest became music history. They sent
Cameron Crowe, their 16-year-old wiz-kid reporter to do the interview.” And in March 1973, issue 131, Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show appeared on the cover of
Rolling Stone.

Dr. Hook on the cover of Rolling Stone in 1973.
The Producer’s Chair: In 1971 you got signed as an artist on PolyGram. How did that come about?
Ron Haffkine: Shel had written a song called “Do You Wanna Boogie or Do You Don’t, Cause If You Do, I Will with You and If You Don’t I Won’t.” So Dennis and the guys said they wanted to produce me. And in the middle of Dr. Hook being hot I got a deal on PolyGram. The record came out and did absolutely nothing, but it took off in San Jose, Calif. and went Top 10. The PolyGram president wanted to do another record but I can’t sing a f…ing note and I was having too much fun with Dr. Hook so I refused.
Why did you leave the west coast and come to Nashville?
RF: Shel says to me, “There’s a young fellow in Nashville,
Kyle Lehning, who engineers for Waylon Jennings. He wants to meet
Roy Halee. If I send Kyle out to San Francisco, will you introduce him to Roy?” So Kyle comes out, I introduce him to Roy and they hit it off. During his time out there Kyle says to me, “Why don’t you come to Nashville and cut a record?” I had never worked with studio players before, but we came to Nashville and Kyle set up a session and he’s got
Kenny Malone,
Steve Gibson and
Shane Keister and we recorded “A Little Bit More.” Dr. Hook wasn’t happy because they always recorded everything themselves but I stood there with my jaw open and my eyes spinning. I could not believe what happened.
The session goes great and Kyle laughed and says to me, “Hey Ronnie, how’s that ever going to be a hit?” The line in the song “When your body’s had enough of me” …is a pretty strong sexual connotation. I said, “If I can get this thing on the radio, there’s no way it’s not a hit.”
Ron moved to Nashville in 1975 and later when the band signed with Capitol, the first single “Only 16” got some attention, but when they released “A Little Bit More” things exploded for Dr. Hook…and Ron.
What surprises you about the industry today?
RF: There were certain songs throughout my life that could not miss. I say that because once an artist gets their first hit, they can be sure that the public is going to hear their second record. So if you miss and you’re already on a greased track, you can’t blame it on promotion or marketing or the record company. That’s what surprises me today. I don’t understand someone having an enormous hit and not being able to follow it up.
I’d listen to 1,000 songs and I’d hear a song with a magnificent first verse and chorus and I’d think to myself, “Thank God I found one.” And then the second and third verses were weak. And I’d get frustrated with the songwriter and I’d say, “You expect me to spend thousands of dollars, energy, time, fight with the record company and fight with radio? You have a genius first verse and chorus and you did not spend the time and effort to finish the song as brilliantly. You got lazy.” That’s the only thing that ever upset me with a songwriter.
How did you wind up producing Lou Rawls?
RF: A girl who worked for me was friends with Lou’s girlfriend, and then I became friends with Lou. He asked me if I wanted to make a record with him. As it turned out, I did not make a really good record with him. I wasn’t doing the kind of stuff that
Gamble and Huff were doing, which had more of a Motown feel. I figured, “they know how to do that stuff, what do they need me for?” So I took the record in a different direction. There were some great songs on that album, one of them being “Wind Beneath My Wings.” I was the first one to cut it and in 1985 an astronaut took the song to space and played it back to earth. That was a first.
You’re the first producer I’ve interviewed who also managed their act. Why?
RF: Jerry Weintraub wanted to take over managing Dr. Hook from me, but the band was funny and wild and I was having the time of my life. So I told him no. He came back, during the success of “Sylvia’s Mother,” and said he would get me the biggest acts in the world to produce, if he could be management. I said, “Jerry, you’re from the Bronx and I’m from Brooklyn. There is not enough money in the world to make me want to talk to you three times a week.”
Jerry would have made me a lot richer but I didn’t care at the time. I was offered lots of jobs as head of A&R but I was having such a great time and I didn’t want a job that put me in the position of telling people “no” on a daily basis. We’re in a business that is so tough and artists and songwriters are sensitive by nature. There are all these sensitive people who put their hearts out there for someone else to stomp on every friggin’ day. I didn’t want to be that stomper.
You had an opportunity to sign Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham. Why didn’t you?
RF: Dr. Hook was out in San Francisco recording their first album. Our road manager had some friends and he asked if I would meet with them. A couple of days later, they’re over at my house Lindsey starts to play his guitar and I hear Stevie Nicks’ voice and I almost passed out. They’d play a song and then argue, they’d play another song and they’d argue again. This went on for a while. I thought they wouldn’t last together because they’d argue after every song. If I had signed them, no doubt I would have ruined their career and they never would have become Fleetwood Mac as the world knows them.
What do you love the most about the music industry?
RF: As a producer, you fall in love with the artists that you produce and you fall in love with the songs. It’s the joy of doing it. This business is not a business that you go into saying, “I’m going to make a million dollars.” I have to walk in with something that someone either hates or loves. I can’t walk in with something ordinary or I’m dead.
When did the industry really change?
RF: We were born at a wonderful point in time but once everybody started sampling everything and there were all kinds of loops and beats, some became so overused that they became dull and boring. The way great music was made, and will be made again, is when you make your own sounds.
Tell me about the Grammy you received in 1984.
RF: Shel wrote a children’s book called
Where The Sidewalk Ends which was on the best sellers list longer than any other book in history at the time. The president of CBS,
Al Teller (later president of MCA), asked me to do some albums on Shel’s children’s books. At first Shel said no, but I convinced him. He refused to go on a book tour or do any TV appearances to promote it, but we won the Grammy anyway.
Who are your current projects and what are your biggest challenges today?
RF: I’m currently working with
Bryan James and
Tawny River. Many of the Country records that are being made today are basically similar to the kind of records that were being made back in the ‘70s and ‘80s. The challenge is what the challenge has always been: the songs.
For more, visit theproducerschair.com.
Bays Promoted to Executive Vice President at Capitol Christian Distribution
/by Jessica NicholsonGreg Bays
Greg Bays has been promoted to Executive Vice President, Capitol Christian Distribution. Bays has been with the company for 21 years, rising to the position of Sr. VP, Sales and Marketing in 2005. He will report to Bill Hearn, President and CEO, Capitol Christian Music Group (CCMG).
“This promotion is well deserved as Greg has effectively led our distribution company as its Senior Vice President through the digital market transformation as well as paradigm-shifting initiatives moving the company into home video and book publishing distribution,” says Hearn. “Under Greg’s direction, Capitol Christian Distribution has become the market leader in Christian products distribution, in addition to being named Billboard Magazine’s Christian Music Distributor of the Year 15 of the last 18 years. Greg has also done an excellent job guiding his team and our business through the recent transition into the Universal Music Group Distribution system.”
Prior to his time at Capitol Christian Music Group, Bays spent seven years in Christian retail. Bays will continue to lead the sales function, strategic retail market development initiatives, catalog development and liaison with Universal Music Group Distribution on behalf of Capitol Christian Music Group’s proprietary label groups and more than 25 third-party music, home video and book publishing partnerships.
“I continue to be excited about the future of the Christian products industry and the new challenges, opportunities, and relationships each day brings,” says Bays. “We have an outstanding team focused on growth through the development of innovative ways to serve our people, retailers, creative partners, and the consumer. I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to this team and our vision to impact culture and resource the church with exceptional music, movies and books.”
Capitol Christian Music Group operates several divisions including Capitol CMG Label Group (Sparrow Records, ForeFront Records, Credential Recordings, sixsteprecords, Hillsong), EMI Gospel, Capitol CMG Distribution and Capitol CMG Publishing.
[Updated]: Nashville Symphony, Creditors Reach Debt Restructure Agreement
/by Jessica NicholsonThe Nashville Symphony and its creditors reached a deal Friday (June 21) to restructure the nonprofit organization’s debt, to avoid a June 28 foreclosure and to keep the Schermerhorn Symphony Center from being auctioned. Banks, led by Bank of America, will forgive and write off a large portion of the debt used to build the Schermerhorn, while the symphony will restructure its operations in exchange for new lending terms, according to The City Paper.
In March, the symphony association opted to not renew a letter of credit, when banks refused to negotiate better terms for the debt. Bank of America, holding more than $80 million in debt related to the building of the Schermerhorn, served notice of foreclosure earlier this month. The banks’ recent foreclosure notice has now been withdrawn.
“After months of discussion with our lenders, we are pleased to have reached a comprehensive resolution that represents the best path forward for all parties involved,” said Ed Goodrich, Chairman of the Nashville Symphony Association, in a statement. “With a healthier balance sheet, the Symphony will be in a better position to pursue its cultural mission of engaging the community, enriching audiences and shaping cultural life through musical excellence and educational vision. We deeply appreciate the professional and constructive approach of our bank lenders in the complex negotiations, and we are grateful to our generous patrons, the city of Nashville and the Mayor’s office. All of these interested parties have contributed significantly to the resolution of this matter, and without their support, this settlement would not have been possible.
“Over the past few months, the Symphony has taken steps to reduce expenditures, increase revenue and drive contributions in an effort to strengthen its bottom line. Reaching this agreement with our lenders is a major milestone in our restructuring process. However, the Symphony still has a lot of work to do to further reduce costs and will continue to need significant financial support from our donors in the years ahead to remain sustainable over the long term. We are committed to taking all possible measures to ensure our financial stability, and we are confident that the Middle Tennessee community will rise to the occasion to help this wonderful arts organization survive and thrive.”
“We are pleased that we have been able to reach this agreement with the Nashville Symphony so that it can continue to play its vital and unique role in this community for generations to come,” said John Stein, Nashville market president for Bank of America. “It is because we all recognize the orchestra’s importance to this community that we were all able to come together and work so hard to make this happen.”
“Throughout the course of these negotiations, we have been fully committed to serving everyone in Middle Tennessee with a dynamic array of programs, both at the Schermerhorn Symphony Center and in the community,” said Alan Valentine, President and Chief Executive Officer of the Nashville Symphony. “On behalf of everyone at the Symphony, I want to thank our patrons and donors for their unwavering support throughout the negotiation process. Their continued loyalty and generosity will be more important than ever as the Symphony moves forward. We would also like to express our thanks to the members of the Symphony staff who have had to make do with less along the path to this resolution. Their continued leadership and commitment to this great institution will help us to remain an integral part of Nashville’s music scene.”
Toby Keith Oklahoma Relief Concert Sold Out
/by Michael_Smith“I grew up in Moore, I live in Norman and I’ve got lots of family and friends who were directly affected,” said Keith. “I know these folks and they’re resilient, but we’re going to keep helping them any way we can. I’m proud to get together with some others from around here who are just as committed as I am to supporting these communities.”
All event proceeds will benefit the United Way of Central Oklahoma May Tornadoes Relief Fund. The concert will take place on Saturday, July 6 at the University of Oklahoma’s Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Okla. at 3 p.m.
For more information on the event, visit tobykeith.com.
Samsung Users Get Jay-Z Album First, But 'Billboard' Won't Count Sales
/by Sarah SkatesBillboard editorial director Bill Werde wrote a letter outlining the publication’s album chart policy, and explaining why Jay’s sales won’t be included. In order for an album sale to count, a consumer must purchase the album for at least $3.49.
In order to retrieve the album, Samsung Galaxy phone users can download a free app starting today (June 24), and the album will be made available to them on July 4—72 hours earlier than the general public.
Werde’s letter noted that first-week sales of the album are expected to fall in line with Jay-Z’s previous debuts of 400,000 to 450,000 units. The editor also shared plans to examine Billboard’s album chart policies in the coming weeks.
Frances Preston's Granddaughter Opening Store
/by Jessica NicholsonFrannie Preston Daughrity
Frannie Preston Daughrity, granddaughter of BMI trailblazer Frances Preston, will open a gifts and home furnishings retail shop in Nashville’s 12South neighborhood this September. Cadeau Nashville, the brainchild of Daughrity and business partner Catherine Rector, will cater to Nashville’s music industry, providing southern industrial decor, investment pieces and gift-able items.
Everything in the store will come with a story.
“I grew up in, and have been surrounded by, the music industry my entire life,” said Daughrity. “I wanted to open a store that catered to the music industry consumer, whether that be a Nashville native or L.A. transplant.” The concept is largely inspired by her grandmother. “My grandmother was such a source of encouragement and inspiration,” she said. “Cadeau Nashville will be a legacy to her sense of style and love for this community.”
For more information on Cadeau Nashville and its grand opening, visit cadeaugifts.com.
Artist Updates (6-24-13)
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Pictured (L-R): Tyler Reese and Travis Tritt.
Travis Tritt has released a cover of “Sometimes Love Just Ain’t Enough,” a duet with his 15-year-old daughter, Tyler Reese. Written by Patti Smyth and Glen Burtnik, the ballad first appeared on Smyth’s self-titled 1992 album. The track is the first single that Tritt has released to Country radio in five years. The song can be heard via YouTube.com.
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Robin Meade
Robin Meade, host of HLN’s “Morning Express with Robin Meade” returns with her new album, Count On Me, featuring the single “Get Up.” The project is produced by Victoria Shaw, and features Lee Brice, Keb’ Mo’, and Kenny Loggins.
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Craig Campbell recently stopped by the MLB Fan Cave for a tour and performance during his Never Regret album launch in New York City. He also treated the Cave Dwellers to a special rendition of the track “Front Porch,” rewritten to pay tribute to Yankee Stadium’s “Right Field Porch.”
Craig Campbell performs for MLB Fan Cave.
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When the LoCash Cowboys visited Renegade Radio Nashville last week (June 18) to debut their self-titled album live online, Renegade’s servers nearly crashed from the number of people streaming the event. “The extensive bandwidth by which we operate daily had to be increased to accommodate the added streams that were launched during the two-hour session,” said Renegade’s Joyce Aponte. Average Joes Entertainment’s Tony Morreale added, “It was a tense but cool moment without incident, and when we stepped back and thought about it afterwards, the magnitude of the worldwide reach really hit us all.”
LoCash Cowboys stream the album for Renegade Radio Nashville.
Video Director Chris Hicky To Shoot Debut Feature Film
/by Jessica NicholsonHicky’s film The Grace of Jake will be set in the crop-dusting fields of Arkansas.
Country video director Chris Hicky will direct his debut feature film, titled The Grace of Jake, beginning this September. The film was written by Hicky and stars actors Jake La Botz (Animal Factory, On The Road), Roy Lee Jones (True Grit, Daredevil) and Chris Bauer (True Blood, The Wire).
The Grace of Jake is a redemptive story of ex-inmate and wandering musician Jake Hayes, who travels from California to Palestine, Ark. in search of a father he never knew. Jake is intent on exacting revenge from his father, whom Jake holds responsible for all of life’s misfortunes. After reaching Palestine and interacting with the locals, Jake begins to unravel a complicated family history that leads him to find life, love, and a gospel record contract.
The feature film will begin shooting on location in Forrest City, Ark., pending a crowd-funding campaign to raise $125,000 via Kickstarter. Possible Kickstarter campaign rewards include movie screening tickets (to those pledging $125 and up), a Jake La Botz private show (for those pledging $9,000 or more), a day with Hicky to film a music video or special event at any US location (to those pledging $10,000 or more). As of this writing, the Kickstarter campaign has raised nearly $48,000.
Hicky has earned the 2006 CMT Video of the Year honor for his work on Keith Urban‘s “Better Life” clip, the 2010 ACM Video of the Year award for Miranda Lambert‘s “White Liar,” and a 2010 Grammy nomination for Urban’s “Love, Pain, and the Whole Crazy World Tour Live.” Recently directed videos by Hicky include Chris Young‘s “You,” Tim McGraw‘s “Truck Yeah,” Kip Moore‘s “Hey Pretty Girl” and Joel Crouse‘s “If You Want Some.”
Zach Paxson – Island
/by contributorIt is from his amassed experiences in these roles that Zach has written a storehouse of music and lyrics that appeal to the majority of Americans – those who work, laugh, love, and sometimes struggle.
As embraced as he is inspired by the blue-collar community of his hometown of Lisbon, Ohio, Zach has drawn from real-life events and interactions in creating songs such as SIMPLE LIFE and OHIO, which is currently under consideration as the official country song of the Buckeye State and was originally released on his debut album, “Good Luck with That.”
It is with pride that we now present ISLAND, the follow up release from his sophomore album, Simple Life.
Industry Ink (6-21-13)
/by Jessica NicholsonGreg Bates was invited to become an honorary “Friends and Family” member of the Country Music Hall of Fame® and Museum.
Pictured (Back Row, L- R): Marc Dennis (CAA), Jeff Krones (CAA), Nikki Burns (Big Machine Label Group), Martha Earls (Sandbox Entertainment), Rachel Weingartner (Membership Manager, Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum), Pamela Johnson (Vice President of Development, Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum), Jay Orr (Vice President of Museum Programs, Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum) and Greg Bates. Photo Courtesy of the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum
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During the recent CRS Board and Agenda Committee meetings, members got a bit of musical entertainment from Hit Shop artist Weston Burt and Warner Nashville’s Charlie Worsham.
Pictured (L-R): Mike Culotta (CRB/CRS President), Becky Brenner (Albright, O’Malley & Brenner), Weston Burt, Skip Bishop (HitShop Records), Bill Mayne (CRB/CRS Executive Director). Photo Credit: Kristen England.
Pictured (L-R): Bill Mayne (CRS/CRB Executive Director), Charlie Morgan (WLHK), Tim Roberts (WYCD), Shelly Easton (WXTU), Kurt Johnson (Townsquare Media), Charlie Worsham, Chris Stacey (Warner Nashville), John Esposito (Warner Nashville), John Shomby (Max Media of Hampton Roads). Photo Credit: Kristen England
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Jo Dee Messina
Jo Dee Messina‘s fans have reached and exceeded her Kickstarter goal, raising $100,000 in 30 days to help fund the recording of Messina’s next album. “The people are the ones that make music possible,” says Messina. “They are the ones that come to the shows, request the songs, and get the records. When I first started the campaign, many folks didn’t get it. The ones that took the time to learn about it got that this project is something we are all doing together. Once again the fans have shown their love and loyalty. I am truly grateful.”
Messina’s Kickstarter campaign officially ends Sunday (June 23) at 9 p.m. ET. According to Kickstarter.com, 831 backers have raised over $111,000, as of this writing.
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Little River Band
Kirt Webster‘s Webster PR has signed Little River Band for publicity representation. Originally formed in Melbourne, Australia in 1975, Little River Band has sold more than 30 million albums worldwide. In 2004, Little River Band was inducted into the Australian Recording Industry (ARIA) Hall of Fame.
Wayne Nelson, lead singer and 30+ year member of the band resides in Nashville.
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The Producer’s Chair: Ron Haffkine
/by contributorRon Haffkine
By James Rea
(The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of MusicRow.)
Best known for his work with Dr. Hook, record producer, manager, A&R/songman Ron Haffkine is in a class all his own. He shies away from talking about his Grammy and his record deal with PolyGram in 1971. His 67 gold and platinum albums (worldwide) are in closets and boxes in his home. And if you ask Ron about the 10 Top 10s he produced on Dr. Hook, he gives you the unedited hilarious stories of how much fun it was.
Dr. Hook’s 12 albums (10 studio and two live) produced by Ron featured numerous hits: “On The Cover of The Rolling Stone,” “Sylvia’s Mother,” “Sharing The Night Together,” “When You’re In Love With A Beautiful Woman,” “Baby Makes Her Blue Jeans Talk,” “Sexy Eyes” (written by Keith Stegall) and Dr. Hook’s smash, “A Little Bit More,” which Ron found at a flea market for 35 cents.
At 21, Ron was a self-professed “average” musician, and his love of music drew him to Greenwich Village, in his home town of New York. There, he became life-long buddies with famed author/playwright/songwriter Shel Silverstein, who wrote many of Dr. Hook’s songs, including “The Cover of The Rolling Stone,” “Freakin’ at the Freakers’ Ball” and “Sylvia’s Mother.” The late writer also penned songs including Johnny Cash’s “A Boy Named Sue,” which won a Grammy in 1970, “The Unicorn” for The Irish Rovers, and Loretta Lynn’s “One’s On The Way.” Today Ron calls Shel, Clive Davis and Kyle Lehning the three most important people in his career.
Ron’s career began to take shape in the early ‘70s when he formed and managed a band called The Gurus. He boldly walked into Regent Sound Studios and convinced then unknown engineer Bill Szymczyk (who later produced The Eagles) to co-produce his band. It was Ron’s first project.
Ron played the album for Shel, who was so impressed he recruited Ron to produce the music for some films he was working on: Who is Harry Kellerman (Dustin Hoffman) and Ned Kelly (Mick Jagger). The soundtrack of the 1970 Jagger film features Silverstein songs produced by Ron, and performed by Waylon Jennings and Kris Kristofferson. Although he was broke, Ron recognized the opportunity and took the gig for free.
One scene in the Hoffman film required a band on stage, so he recommended Dr. Hook, who he’d heard in The Sands bar in Union City, New Jersey. He convinced the producers, Shel and Hoffman, to use them by hosting a showcase.
Ron knew he had to get a record deal for the band before the movie came out, so he used Hoffman’s name to get a meeting with Clive Davis at CBS. Ron says that in preparation for the meeting he told the drummer to turn over Clive’s wastebasket and use it as a drum. He told the keyboard player to jump up on Clive’s desk, and he told Ray to sing about two feet from Clive’s face. He prepped the band with liquor. Clive called his business affairs man, Elliot Goldman, and signed them on the spot. It was 1969.
Ron recalls, “Clive Davis had signed Dr. Hook and flown us to the CBS convention in LA. He had just finished telling everyone in his company that he was going to introduce his next huge act. Then the group gets on stage and completely blows it. It was terrible and I’m hiding in the bathroom. Fred Foster comes in and sees me ready to pass out. He says, ‘Don’t worry. I heard that kid’s voice. Stay with it. Fred was a very important factor in my life and I don’t know if he knows it.”
Silverstein was then living in Sausalito and when Ron went to visit him, he fell in love with San Francisco and moved there.
They recorded Dr. Hook’s first album on the west coast at Roy Halee’s studio. Ron and the band were broke and living in a flop house but they managed to record 20 sides. One day Shel and Ron were driving across the Golden Gate Bridge and Shel pulled out his guitar and played “Sylvia’s Mother.” Clive liked the song, but his head of national promotions, Steve Popovich, loved it.
From hanging out with Shel Silverstein, Ron had learned the difference between good songs and great songs and was quickly becoming Dr. Hook’s go-to A&R man, as well as their producer and manager. Later, after “Sylvia’s Mother,” Ron locked horns with Clive Davis over Silverstein’s “Cover of the Rolling Stone” because of the lyrics “We take all kinds of pills to give us all kinds of thrills” and “I got a freaky old lady named Cocaine Katy.”
Ron recalled, “I went up to see Jann Wenner at Rolling Stone magazine and told him, ‘I’ve just given you guys the best commercial for that rag you’ll ever get.’ And the rest became music history. They sent Cameron Crowe, their 16-year-old wiz-kid reporter to do the interview.” And in March 1973, issue 131, Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show appeared on the cover of Rolling Stone.
Dr. Hook on the cover of Rolling Stone in 1973.
The Producer’s Chair: In 1971 you got signed as an artist on PolyGram. How did that come about?
Ron Haffkine: Shel had written a song called “Do You Wanna Boogie or Do You Don’t, Cause If You Do, I Will with You and If You Don’t I Won’t.” So Dennis and the guys said they wanted to produce me. And in the middle of Dr. Hook being hot I got a deal on PolyGram. The record came out and did absolutely nothing, but it took off in San Jose, Calif. and went Top 10. The PolyGram president wanted to do another record but I can’t sing a f…ing note and I was having too much fun with Dr. Hook so I refused.
Why did you leave the west coast and come to Nashville?
RF: Shel says to me, “There’s a young fellow in Nashville, Kyle Lehning, who engineers for Waylon Jennings. He wants to meet Roy Halee. If I send Kyle out to San Francisco, will you introduce him to Roy?” So Kyle comes out, I introduce him to Roy and they hit it off. During his time out there Kyle says to me, “Why don’t you come to Nashville and cut a record?” I had never worked with studio players before, but we came to Nashville and Kyle set up a session and he’s got Kenny Malone, Steve Gibson and Shane Keister and we recorded “A Little Bit More.” Dr. Hook wasn’t happy because they always recorded everything themselves but I stood there with my jaw open and my eyes spinning. I could not believe what happened.
The session goes great and Kyle laughed and says to me, “Hey Ronnie, how’s that ever going to be a hit?” The line in the song “When your body’s had enough of me” …is a pretty strong sexual connotation. I said, “If I can get this thing on the radio, there’s no way it’s not a hit.”
Ron moved to Nashville in 1975 and later when the band signed with Capitol, the first single “Only 16” got some attention, but when they released “A Little Bit More” things exploded for Dr. Hook…and Ron.
What surprises you about the industry today?
RF: There were certain songs throughout my life that could not miss. I say that because once an artist gets their first hit, they can be sure that the public is going to hear their second record. So if you miss and you’re already on a greased track, you can’t blame it on promotion or marketing or the record company. That’s what surprises me today. I don’t understand someone having an enormous hit and not being able to follow it up.
I’d listen to 1,000 songs and I’d hear a song with a magnificent first verse and chorus and I’d think to myself, “Thank God I found one.” And then the second and third verses were weak. And I’d get frustrated with the songwriter and I’d say, “You expect me to spend thousands of dollars, energy, time, fight with the record company and fight with radio? You have a genius first verse and chorus and you did not spend the time and effort to finish the song as brilliantly. You got lazy.” That’s the only thing that ever upset me with a songwriter.
How did you wind up producing Lou Rawls?
RF: A girl who worked for me was friends with Lou’s girlfriend, and then I became friends with Lou. He asked me if I wanted to make a record with him. As it turned out, I did not make a really good record with him. I wasn’t doing the kind of stuff that Gamble and Huff were doing, which had more of a Motown feel. I figured, “they know how to do that stuff, what do they need me for?” So I took the record in a different direction. There were some great songs on that album, one of them being “Wind Beneath My Wings.” I was the first one to cut it and in 1985 an astronaut took the song to space and played it back to earth. That was a first.
You’re the first producer I’ve interviewed who also managed their act. Why?
RF: Jerry Weintraub wanted to take over managing Dr. Hook from me, but the band was funny and wild and I was having the time of my life. So I told him no. He came back, during the success of “Sylvia’s Mother,” and said he would get me the biggest acts in the world to produce, if he could be management. I said, “Jerry, you’re from the Bronx and I’m from Brooklyn. There is not enough money in the world to make me want to talk to you three times a week.”
Jerry would have made me a lot richer but I didn’t care at the time. I was offered lots of jobs as head of A&R but I was having such a great time and I didn’t want a job that put me in the position of telling people “no” on a daily basis. We’re in a business that is so tough and artists and songwriters are sensitive by nature. There are all these sensitive people who put their hearts out there for someone else to stomp on every friggin’ day. I didn’t want to be that stomper.
You had an opportunity to sign Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham. Why didn’t you?
RF: Dr. Hook was out in San Francisco recording their first album. Our road manager had some friends and he asked if I would meet with them. A couple of days later, they’re over at my house Lindsey starts to play his guitar and I hear Stevie Nicks’ voice and I almost passed out. They’d play a song and then argue, they’d play another song and they’d argue again. This went on for a while. I thought they wouldn’t last together because they’d argue after every song. If I had signed them, no doubt I would have ruined their career and they never would have become Fleetwood Mac as the world knows them.
What do you love the most about the music industry?
RF: As a producer, you fall in love with the artists that you produce and you fall in love with the songs. It’s the joy of doing it. This business is not a business that you go into saying, “I’m going to make a million dollars.” I have to walk in with something that someone either hates or loves. I can’t walk in with something ordinary or I’m dead.
When did the industry really change?
RF: We were born at a wonderful point in time but once everybody started sampling everything and there were all kinds of loops and beats, some became so overused that they became dull and boring. The way great music was made, and will be made again, is when you make your own sounds.
Tell me about the Grammy you received in 1984.
RF: Shel wrote a children’s book called Where The Sidewalk Ends which was on the best sellers list longer than any other book in history at the time. The president of CBS, Al Teller (later president of MCA), asked me to do some albums on Shel’s children’s books. At first Shel said no, but I convinced him. He refused to go on a book tour or do any TV appearances to promote it, but we won the Grammy anyway.
Who are your current projects and what are your biggest challenges today?
RF: I’m currently working with Bryan James and Tawny River. Many of the Country records that are being made today are basically similar to the kind of records that were being made back in the ‘70s and ‘80s. The challenge is what the challenge has always been: the songs.
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